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The United States regards Israel as virtually a militarized offshoot, and it protects it from criticism or actions and supports passively and, in fact, overtly supports its expansion, its attacks on Palestinians, its progressive takeover of what remains of Palestinian territory, and its acts to, well, actually realize a comment that Moshe Dayan made back in the early ’70s when he was responsible for the Occupied Territories. He said to his cabinet colleagues that we should tell the Palestinians that we have no solution for you, that you will live like dogs, and whoever will leave will leave, and we'll see where that leads. That's basically the policy. And I presume the U.S. will continue to advance that policy in one or another fashion.
I_am_not_a_number wrote:That was a great post refuting copyleft's points! Thanks for taking the time to do it articulately and factually
I_am_not_a_number wrote:I would only add this the following to your excellent rebuttal of copyleft's predictable propaganda about Israel "leaving Gaza" out of the kindness of its heart and how poor Israel got nothing in return for it, blah blah...
major.tom wrote:I get the feeling that Israel is trying to cause civil war within Lebanon and Palestine. They would much prefer Hamas and Fetah to be fighting, and the Lebanese army fighting with Hezbollah, in the hope that Israel would be spared most of the bloodshed. So far, this has (largely) failed to materialize.
AlexZello wrote:What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict?
The question is, why do we even need the peace talks? A far better choice would be to accelerate the construction and hang up the peace process, which would otherwise strip Israel of vitally important lands.
Pangaea wrote:I was glimpsing through this thread and happened to see this comment. Now we know what happened - thanks in no small part to US and Israeli political pressure and military training.
Later, much of the same forces, trained by Israel and Jordan with US backing, managed to virtually prevent any protest in the West Bank against the slaughter in Gaza during the 2008-9 war.
The US showing itself as an honest broker once again....
Pangaea wrote:They tried to look united when they first came to that decision, but I know there was a lot of ruckus in the ranks, and that pretty big sections of Fatah want a new leader.
Pangaea wrote:Unfortunately I think the lesson the Palestinians are learning is that if they elect Hamas again, the current policy of silent murder and strangulation will continue. But if they choose Fatah they will perhaps at least be allowed to breath a little. There will still be no progress on a 2-state solution as both the US and Israel are vehemently opposed to it, but perhaps the siege will be dampened a bit.
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