i'm new to onebigtorrent.com

for the past 11 years i've been collecting, contacting, meeting, organizing, talking about freedom, anarchy, independent media, etc.

I was happy to find onebigtorrent... i never thought there could be a torrent comunity for this kind of things as usually info goes around by indymedia or fanzines, etc.
i posted my first 4 torrents here a couple of days ago. all the 4 of them were being downloaded by at least 20 people each and i felt like this was really a good way to share information.

yesterday i got a message from a moderator saying that one of the docs i had posted was considered off topic and that i should put it in another site.

the documentary was "2007 - alex jones - endgame, blueprint for global enslavement"

as is said in my comment to it, i felt that some of it was exagerated but nonetheless, it still provided good info on NWO and i felt like it was another source as good as any other.
anyway, i had at least 20 people downloading it from me.

I asked the moderator: who considers this offtopic if i have currently 20 people downloading it from me? they aren't the ones trying to censor info on this website, that's for sure.if 20 people wan't it, why is a mod preventing this torrent to live? why am i wasting my time sharing stuff if one moderator goes against my will and the one of 20 other guys and just deletes the torrent?

is this the way onebigtorrent works? i understand this is a share center for specific media and info but both me and 20 other guys considered it relevant.

should i keep sharing and being part of this community? the logo is a blackflag, that used to mean something.

Materials dealing with "the NWO", Black Helicopters, secret societies, UFOs, Jews poisoning wells ... you name it, should be kept to conspiracycentral.org, which has a lively community that is interested in precisely that (among other more sensible things, which you'll often find cross-posted here).

we clearly state this position on our about-page, please take a look here: https://onebigtorrent.org/about.php

is this the way onebigtorrent works? i understand this is a share center for specific media and info but both me and 20 other guys considered it relevant.

yes, that is how the site works. i'm sure if you had uploaded Girls Gone Wild IV instead, you would easily have found 20 guys interested in that as well. we get a whole lot of traffic these days.

should i keep sharing and being part of this community?

if you're going to share movies by right-wing nutcases, this isn't your kind of place. Revolution OS on the other hand was right on target, so if you keep it to that, your contributions will be appreciated..

I understand the desire to keep this site focused on anarchist/marxist/progressive material, but is their perhaps some sort of democratic solution to this or an appeals process? I could potentially see problems with ideology being too important and marginalizing some viewpoints. Who is to say what is or isn't appropriate. We don't want digital purges do we?

PS, wasn't zeitgeist the movie uploaded here? that seems to be much like this issue.

i totally agree. it would be better to have community control over these things. what i've got in mind is something like what digg.com does with their comments -- if a contribution receives a certain number of bad votes, it's hidden (and you can un-hide it if you wish).

i'll give it a bit more thought and come up with something. in the meantime the task will have to stay with the mods.

cicardia wrote:"... alex jones...

Alex Jones is a very confused man. Problem is, so many people flock to his misguided teachings. Whether he be aware or not, he is a tool of our oppressors. I once listened to his Radio Show, where he supposedly pwned Noam Chomsky... It was hilarious how childish, foolish, and idiotic Alex Jones really is.

Aside from that, I'd agree that this isn't the place for conspiracy theories. One Big Torrent has consistently been a place to share information of journalistic integrity, or at least good analysis... Although, I'd love to see a Digg type structure set up, I can't say that I feel bad that they made the decision they did.

That's my two cents...

I wish some people could look at it from a more Global point of view. It seems 99% of the "censorship" complaints we get stems from America and american "conspiracy theories". UFO's, black helicopters, Alex Jones, zeitgeist: It's all a culture thing. Just like Rome happens to be the place to go for excorcisms or Romania for a date with Dracula.

It's time for America to sober up and deal with the reality that doesn't top the charts at youtube. You don't see soldiers killing kids there - do you? The whole notion that American citizens are not responsible for anything but rather victims of some topsecret evil religious government jewish banking conspiracy taking place at area 51 just makes me sick.

"The devil made me do it".

I like Martin's idea of a certain number of votes to hide a torrent/topic/post. But it should work up and down. Say a nett of 7 down and it's hidden. That way if you see something that is at -5 you can give it a plus if you want to help stop it being hidden.

Moderators usually start off being nice guys and then the power often goes to their head. e.g. you can't trust the people because "i'm sure if you had uploaded Girls Gone Wild IV instead, you would easily have found 20 guys interested in that as well." Really? Do people come here looking for porn?

Seriously, if 20 people were downloading any torrent, that is a strong indication that it does fit the evolving criteria of the site.

Sure I don't want to have the place flooded with black helicopter posts and torrents, but some stuff is borderline and I would prefer not to have any one person deciding where that line is.

Moderators usually start off being nice guys and then the power often goes to their head. e.g. you can't trust the people because "i'm sure if you had uploaded Girls Gone Wild IV instead, you would easily have found 20 guys interested in that as well." Really? Do people come here looking for porn?

i don't think they come here specifically looking for porn, but if there's porn on the index (which sometimes happens when there's no moderator for 24h or so), people readily download it. i think the reason is that we get a good deal of traffic from search engines, so our visitors represent a nice cross-section of the population.

Sure I don't want to have the place flooded with black helicopter posts and torrents, but some stuff is borderline and I would prefer not to have any one person deciding where that line is.

i think in order for it to work properly without any moderators, it would take a very lively community that has the right tools for interacting. we would really have to rebuild some of the site to get there. as pangaea pointed out here a while ago, a place on the web isn't automatically a community, just because it accepts submissions and has a bulletin board, it takes more than that.

To: Aldrian

Well said. I concur 100 %

not.

Always love a good argument!

I have to wonder where good Ole Noam gets his information. Does it just float into his head, or does he possess super natural powers, enabling him to have superior intellect and knowledge. He seems to have an hypnotic effect on certain people, believe what I tell you, come to my lectures, and buy my books. I'm worth $2 million dollars, and it's set up in a trust to avoid taxation. What a joke!

titikaka wrote:I have to wonder where good Ole Noam gets his information. Does it just float into his head, or does he possess super natural powers, enabling him to have superior intellect and knowledge. He seems to have an hypnotic effect on certain people, believe what I tell you, come to my lectures, and buy my books. I'm worth $2 million dollars, and it's set up in a trust to avoid taxation. What a joke!

If they could pack it in a pill, I'm sure Pfizer would be all too happy to sell it to you for $20 a dose and there would be people lined up around the block to pay it. Alas, there is no quick fix; merely the product of a lifetime spent paying close attention to what's happening in the greater world.

It's unfortunate you see him as a joke, but that is well within your rights.

ps. If I had any money to speak of, I would do all within the law to keep it from a gov't hell-bent on squandering billion after bloody billion on a grotesquely obese military. Just how many aircraft carriers does one nation need?

major.tom wrote:Just how many aircraft carriers does one nation need?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ai ... by_country According to that list, at least one more (in service) than the combined total of all other air craft carrying nations.

weused2benumber10 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country According to that list, at least one more (in service) than the combined total of all other aircraft carrying nations.

I didn't realize the numbers were actually that extreme. Nice pull.

(Canada has 5 aircraft carriers?!? At least none are in service.)