Alex Jones’ 9/11 Chronicles Part One: Truth Rising

Always fun to see new stuff from AyJay. Just so long as you understand the difference between an activist and a demagogue.

Jones only appears in two brief cameos in this movie. Its focus is on how you can become the activist.

I'm watching it now (and thanks to OBT'ers who seed and keep it going) but as an activist here myself, I have not seen the anger mobilized to general action.


Then there's the subtext about the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission and all the rest of the message within the message from the Jones gang.

It is _those_ parts of the movement which have conflated various prejudices with the 911 Truth movement. It's where the true believers begin to spew about the equivalent of The Great Pumpkin in the old Peanuts cartoon strip.

I have actively used this analogy in discussing the issue and why there is no larger public protest.

I'm watching it now too...I paid for a PrisonPlanet.tv subscription, and give back to the community that provided it on a daily basis. What have you done for the 9/11 truth community?

You can criticize and name-call all you want, but Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski, the Loose Change crew and all these other 9/11 truthers in this film have done more to wake up Americans than you can ever dream to do.

I'm sick of all these pro-Obama, pro-CFR neocons who try and shine the turd which is corporate capitalism and make it appear any better than it is.

Clinton is scum, so are the Bilderbergers, the Bohemian Grovers, and any other treasonous filth who get off on crashing the Federal Reserve and looting the economy for all its worth.

Join the real 9/11 truth movement, not this mockingbird ninny-fest that seeks to destroy truth. Why don't you join the revolution, and stop being an armchair quarterback?

You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists.

Femacamper, I think there is much with which us "ninny-festers" - which I assume is the nickname here designated to those in opposition to the government but not affiliated with the 9/11 Truth movement - and you (the 9/11 T M) agree.

I think part of what the misunderstanding between us is involves the fact that we, the ninny-festers, aren't of the opinion that it is sensible to limit our collective attention on this one event. There are enough bad things that our government has demonstrably done that we don't need to limit all of our correspondence to this one event. Yes it was absolutely criminal what our government did, whether it was the allowance or the carrying out of 9/11/01.

That the US government allowed it to happen is demonstrable, and it's as simple as looking at their foreign policy record throughout the years. But there are a great deal many other atrocities the US government is directly responsible for for there to be no reason to focus all of our discourse on this one event. Thousands of people are dying every single day because of our governments wretched policies and because of our collective failure to hold them accountable. I think this primarily is the reason for our misunderstanding.

We can speculate on many things ad infinitum, without reaching any conclusion. That's not difficult. One can make the provocative suggestion that the 9/11 Truth movement is on the government's payroll to divert attention from everything else. But what's the point in that? What would that achieve? One can make many speculative remarks, but it's a complete waste of time, when we have the documented record we need only demonstrate. Or we can speculate and argue about a single instance until dinosaurs reinhabit the earth; it's our choice.

Or we can take this excuse that the establishment has used, the military-industrial corpocracy has hijacked as a reason to take down our rights, strip away freedoms, and loot and pillage our economy right before our eyes, take it and shove it up their collective behind.

For the sake of the thousands who died on 9/11, the families and loved ones of those who died, and the first responders who are still dying from health effects due to the incident, we need to take this curve ball and hit a homerun, right out of the park.

aren't other places better suited for conspiracy crapped stuff like that aj movie,would be real a shame if obt would get littered with conspirology and ufoism

I can see you like to pigeonhole everyone who believes in conspiracy, althusser. You should look up the legal definition. Wait, I have something better.

In the famous words of the late, great George Carlin:

"I always question the received reality. Consensus reality is often intentionally misleading."

He also stated, and I paraphrase:

Do governments and corporations get together behind closed doors? Nah... Do the rich and powerful conspire to control the economy? No... Are greedy politicians manipulating the political system? Never!

don't be a disgrace and let carlin r.i.p. he can't defend himself anymore.
break the consensus about 9/11, Bilderberg and what not somewhere else or better let aj & co find paying subscribers for their stuff somewhere else.

Let Carlin speak in his own words from the grave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow5_UYKaJ8

Now shut it, husser, and stop accusing the truth movement of lying!


Famous quotes that explain the reality of 9/11 (from Alex Jones' Show):

"The jig's up, 9-11 was a self-inflicted wound."

"Do you think some people in a caaaaave could have NORAD stand down?"

"America's stupid yuppie scum..............spending time on their hair, cars and their portfolio while the country is being sabotaged from within..............I'd like to smack those cute smiles off their faces...but I digress."

"Days after 9-11, they claimed that one of the supposed hijackers at the World Trade Center, one of his passports flew out unburned, unscarred, unscathed, unscratched, unblemished - came out of his pocket, out of his jacket, through the burning fire ball, through the wall of the plane, out of the girders, out of the building, fell with hundreds of millions of pieces of paper, out of those tens of thousands of filing cabinets, fell down and was picked up by a cop and then later when it turned out, the guys photo in the passport, that he was still alive in another country, they said you know what, that was a mistake....well what do you mean, the fake passport that you produced is a mistake?!...that's as bad as the magic bullet..."

"People say, 'The government couldn't carry out the September 11th attack, it's too big, they'd get caught!' They DID get caught! They're just counting on you to be dumb and to go along with it."

- Alex Jones

"The only thing we destroy are myths." - Warren Cuccurillo

"They're everywhere! They put fluoride in your water to put holes in your children's brains! [to dumb them down]"

- Alex Jones, who said this several times and belabored this point extensively during an interview with John Taylor Gatto.

"Don't listen to him [Alex Jones], he's a raving lunatic."

- David Barsamian

Need I say more?

Alex Jones is ethnocentric and a right-wing-free-market- libertarian who is a part of the "angry white man syndrome".

Please no more of the conspiracy theory stuff here. We;re all of the left for crying out loud, not a part of the free-market angry white man syndrome right.

Alex is no more left-wing than you are a chicken wing.

It's a false paradigm...there isn't a dime's difference between a republicrat and a demican.

They're two sides of the same coin. Alex Jones shatters the false left-right paradigm and exposes it for what it is - fascism and communism.

All of you neo-libs are quick to yelp out conspiracy theory when it's plain that this is a carefully orchestrated conspiracy fact. It's a legal definition that is tryable in court, and if Bush and Cheney are ever impeached, they will be indicted on conspiracy charges to commit murder of American citizens.

Also, FYI, Alex Jones is not 100% white, he's part native. So take that in your peace pipe and smoke it.

Dr. Mercola, a well known personality on the Internet, has exposed the health effects of fluoride very cogently here:

1) Fluoride's ability to damage the brain represents one of the most active areas of research on fluoride toxicity today.

2) The research on fluoride and the brain has been fueled by 18 human studies from China, India, Iran, and Mexico finding elevated levels of fluoride exposure to be associated with IQ deficits in children. Fluoride's impact on IQ is exacerbated among children with low-iodine exposure.

3) The impact of fluoride on children's IQ has been documented even after controlling for children's lead exposure, iodine exposure, parental education and income status, and other known factors that might impact the results (Rocha-Amador 2007; Xiang 2003 a,b).

4) In addition to IQ studies, 3 studies (Yu 1996; Du 1992; Han 1989) have found that fluoride accumulates in the brain of the fetus, causing damage to cells and neurotransmitters and 1 study (Li 2004) has found a correlation between exposure to fluoride during fetal development and behavioral deficits among neonates.

5) Several recent studies have found that even adult exposures to fluoride may result in central nervous system disturbances, particularly among industrial workers.

5) The findings of neurological effects in fluoride-exposed humans is consistent with, and strengthened by, recent findings from over 40 animal studies published since 1992. As with the studies on humans, the studies on animals have reported an impairment in learning and memory prorcesses among the fluoride-treated groups.

6) The animal studies have also documented considerable evidence of direct toxic effects of fluoride on brain tissue, even at levels as low as 1 ppm fluoride in water (Varner 199. These effects include:

-- reduction in nicotinic acetylcholine receptors;
-- reduction in lipid content;
-- impaired anti-oxidant defense systems;
-- damage to the hippocampus;
-- damage to the purkinje cells;
-- increased uptake of aluminum;
-- formation of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic brain abnormality in Alzheimer's disease);
-- exacerbation of lesions induced by iodine deficiency; and
-- accumulation of fluoride in the pineal gland.

This is a side issue, but important nonetheless...

You should start distilling your water, stop drinking that tap crap.

Since when am I a "neo-lib"??? I'm a libertarian socialist......I fucking hate liberals, lol.

Alex Jones is a right-wing-free-market-libertarian. Why did he support such a reactionary like Ron Paul???

He also blames "the mexicans" for a lot of things and he has gone on racist rants.

Also he IS white. He might have some other blood too but he is part of the white culture. I don't see him in the inner city either with blacks or in latino neighborhoods like mine.

And about Chaney and Bush...they could be tried for actual crimes...war crimes...no need for that "9/11" bull shit which makes no sense.

Seriously, please no more Alex Jones bull shit here.

Alex Jones is a right-wing-free-market-libertarian. Why did he support such a reactionary like Ron Paul???

Ron Paul is hardly a reactionary...he's a throwback to traditional values of a strong American economy, self-defensive military policy (not offensive), and moral and ethical values in politics. If anything he's a replica of the founding fathers.

Alex never blames "the mexicans" for anything. He has a lot of hispanic friends, and they agree with him that illegal immigration is a serious problem. You like competing with illegal workers who are getting paid what you do for $5 per hour?

You're just a racial divider, and you're still stuck on the false left-right paradigm. Hitler and Stalin were the same, in the sense that they were hardline military dictators. Is Bush any different? No. And neither is Cheney, and neither will Obamination or Songbird McCain or Hitlery Clinton.

Do you stalk Alex jones? How would you know where he goes or who he associates with as friends?

There is nothing bull about thousands of people dying from a false-flag American government attack. It was controlled by the CIA and Mossad. They pulled the same crap in Vietnam, in the Gulf of Tonkin. They did the same in Egypt and Cuba. It's history repeating itself over and over...google Operation Northwoods, a declassified CIA document that shows their evil intent.

Seriously, please no more blind and stupid patriotism.

http://www.poparf.com/bp_911_truth.html

Femacamper said:

"Ron Paul is hardly a reactionary...he's a throwback to traditional values of a strong American economy, self-defensive military policy (not offensive), and moral and ethical values in politics. If anything he's a replica of the founding fathers."

The founding fathers were slave owning, sexists elite rich scumbags. They were ethnocentric and they hated actual democracy. James Madison said, when speaking on what government should do in his opinion, that "our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." In other words they hated and feared poor people and wanted the government to protect rich people......very reactionary. If Paul is like that (which he is which is why he likes free markets), then he's reactionary too. Fuck the founding founders. They were a bunch of slave owning rich white men who cried for freedom. Such hippocrates they were.

And as I said, there are actual things going on in the world that are not "conspiracies" but that are real and worse than any of the conspiracy bull shit spit out by the "truthers". We know how private power works, we know of major corporations and their crimes, etc. Why not concentrate on that????

And what "patriotism" are you talking about??? Libertarian socialists are not "patriots" as patriotism is childish and bull shit.