Obama Deception (2009)

enemy propaganda

Please explain.

Alex Jones.

red jade never explains its self. Lol. Interesting speculation. All I know is, secrets promote advantage. And if civil / public officials think its ok to have "private" or secret meetings, its a bad sign. Secrets only promote leverage and control. The truth is a double edged sword... take it down slowly.

Nice interview clips too.

Alex Jones does offer some good points. But politicians say many different things at different times, and Alex does jump to conclusions too often.

Use the shopping cart method here. Take what you like and leave what you don't on the shelf.

Dont most of us do that already? Finally got through watching the whole thing and I will have to admit it did scare me a bit. Hopefully thats not part of Alex Jones' business model I would like to see deeper investigations with evidence in favor of both sides.

The problem with this kind of wacked out consiracy theory stuff is that it makes people skeptical, jaded and dismissive when they are confronted with genuine instances of public manipulation, deception, abuse of power, exploitation, etc. etc. It becomes too easy to dismiss real and pressing issues with the simple perjorative "conspiracy theory".
It would not surprise me if the kinds of ideas expressed here (as well as the WTC conspiracy theories, etc.) started out as black propaganda intended to produce precicely this effect. Prps this is what redjade meant by "enemy propaganda"?

I would say accept the information you see in the flick as a possible lead and look in to it your self. Its good that the information is put out, its up to everyone to judge for themselves what seems probable. Also whats real and pressing is different dependent on who you ask.

Oh yea, this stuff is propaganda (by definition,) but I dont see how making light of possible impropriety on the part of elected officials is a bad thing. Its only bad when you choose to believe it and not look for the answers yourself. That's why I said earlier to take it in slow so you have time to properly digest and understand the (intent/purpose/possibility of the) information.

remember how alex j's interview with Noam C ended? if not take a look on youtube.

Alex Jones: "Waging war on Noam Chomsky who should stick to the underworld where the noams live."

nice stuff

Dude .. the underworld where the noams live.. hilarious. What does that even mean? Does he say it in this movie?

I just can't get myself to watch his stuff, ever since a couple of years back I wasted 90 minutes of my precious time on watching that Bohemian Grove thing.

The Bohemianism grove expedition was quite entertaining. I count my self fortunate to have seen that first hand account of such foolery. One of my many gripes is that people don't like to talk about things that can negatively affect their pocket book, something I think Jone's exploit seems to illustrate well.

Alex Jones needs to sell more DVDs and Obama is the new Bush for him. Webster Tarpley has been quite off in most if not all of his "predictions" and "analysis". Also, most of this stuff is not "conspiracy" it happens out in the open and quite freely. Everyone knows that most of Obama's contributions came from the finance world-no conspiracy there, no secret.I did enjoy seeing KRS One and Professor Griff...lol.

I kinda like the first part of this, but then the Karl Rove lookalike and basically the whole flick goes into conspiracy overdrive. What has global warming and gun control have to do with the federal reserve? Do you want to nationalize the fed res or not?
The bottom line: FUCK the US, FUCK Britain, FUCK all nations! Stealing the land of the "Indians" don't make you a glorious nation. And, above all: FUCK the constitution. I can't stand to hear another gringo dimwit explain how the constitution is the ultimate source of knowledge. God didn't hand the constitution carved in stone to the land-stealing euro-trash that ended up there. You'd only pledge allegiance if your a moron or religious.

I take a measured approach from many people.Chomsky,Zinn,AJ,Alan Watt,Ed Griffin,all sorts.

I found that AJ gets people fired up but Watching 90minutes of bohemian grove action doesnt inspire me too much.

There is always the temptation to sell fear once it becomes a business. There still are tidbits of information. Dont dismiss anything entirely off hand.

Id be more into how we can avoid getting into debt,and not using national currency. This transition towns stuff is interesting even if im not completely sold on carbon credits and the like.

The answers are pretty simple, its just going to take alot of individuals to will themselves away from credit (and other financial products), rolling up their sleeves and telling the jerkoffs in Washington to get lost.

There is a thing called the conservation of energy, and its a very real thing. Something for nothing does not exist and to believe it does only goes to show how foolish (or willing-fully oppressive) john q public is.