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Jared Diamond - Rise & Fall of Societies -TED 2003- Hi-Res XviD
Report Abuse/InfringementJared Diamond - Rise & Fall of Societies -TED 2003- Hi-Res XviD
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Jared Diamond is an award-winning scholar of ecology, biology and history, and best-selling author of 'Guns, Germs and Steel' and 'Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed.'
Diamond is the author of a number of popular science works that combine anthropology, biology, ecology, linguistics, genetics, and history.
His best-known work is the non-fiction, Pulitzer Prize-winning Guns, Germs, and Steel (1997), which asserts that the main international issues of our time are legacies of processes that began during the pre-historic times in which civilizations that had experienced an extensive amount of "human development" began to intrude upon technologically less advanced civilizations around the world. The impetus of this dominance is rooted in their original access to agriculture and the domestication of animals, profoundly influenced by the accidents of geography and climate.
In a following book, Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed (2005), Diamond examines a range of past civilizations and societies, attempting to identify why they collapsed into ruins or survived only in a massively reduced form.
He considers what contemporary societies can learn from these societal collapses. As in Guns, Germs, and Steel, he argues against ethnocentric explanations for the dominate role of a few societies
For the collapses, he discusses, and focuses instead on ecological, cultural and socio-political factors.
The lecture may be a bit academic for some but the systematic approach he applies to the question of collapse is particularly interesting as describes the conflict of interest between elites that isolate themselves from the larger, longterm interests of society. Diamond believes the world's economic direction to be unsustainable but does not mention energy.
http://www.ted.com/
TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, Design. It started out (in 1984) as a conference bringing together people from those three worlds with an even broader scope now.
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mods, please take this down. I will not stand for such insidious propaganda. TED?! really? TED?! oh my valve is clamping and causing such wretched pain at the thought.
TED is so bourgeois there is nothing more bourgeois ever imagined by man. Let me guess, rags to riches myth, well dressed male? ENEMY PROPAGANDA!
TED is so bourgeois there is nothing more bourgeois ever imagined by man. Let me guess, rags to riches myth, well dressed male? ENEMY PROPAGANDA!
Mar 24 2009, 01:35 CET
addendum: guns, germs, and steel was some of the worst anthropology ever popularized.
The most insidious propaganda is the kind which appears innocuous, but has underlying assumptions, that force a world-view onto the audience. In this case, the bourgeois worldview. Example: TV show "24" there's a bomb, terrorist is tortured, a mall of shoppers are saved by the information extracted. Underlying assumption: torture is a good thing that saves lives.
Now Guns, Germs, and Steel: why does the white man have all the cargo? Underlying assumption: having cargo is a good thing. Western bourgeois society is BETTER. OH MY VALVE!!!!!!
The most insidious propaganda is the kind which appears innocuous, but has underlying assumptions, that force a world-view onto the audience. In this case, the bourgeois worldview. Example: TV show "24" there's a bomb, terrorist is tortured, a mall of shoppers are saved by the information extracted. Underlying assumption: torture is a good thing that saves lives.
Now Guns, Germs, and Steel: why does the white man have all the cargo? Underlying assumption: having cargo is a good thing. Western bourgeois society is BETTER. OH MY VALVE!!!!!!
Mar 24 2009, 02:56 CET
Well symbol, that might be a problem with hidden assumptions. But surely explaining reasons behind torture, slavery, genocide etc. does not necessary mean one would think those are nice habits.
Seems to me that Guns, germs and steel is rather interesting exercise, trying to argue that climate and geography are more dominant factors than culture or race. There might not be much about goodness of western society, rather why some societies were enslaved, murdered and raped by westerners. Which was not very nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
Seems to me that Guns, germs and steel is rather interesting exercise, trying to argue that climate and geography are more dominant factors than culture or race. There might not be much about goodness of western society, rather why some societies were enslaved, murdered and raped by westerners. Which was not very nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
Mar 24 2009, 03:57 CET
So why wasn't the book titled "sticks, health, and sun" as a treatise on how, if western society had stuck with those there wouldn't have been raping?
Mar 24 2009, 04:50 CET
Because, symbol, it's already been written. Check out Against His-story, Against Leviathan on black and red, a micro publisher that you can feel good about supporting:
http://www.blackandred.org/pages/catalog.html
Against His-story is an interpretation of history and the possible rise and spread of the first civilization. It's a fairly quick read and the analysis in the last hundred pages is stellar, especially coming from 1983. While this text likely did influence primitivism, I would say this is not a primitivist text but one that is simply critical of leviathan/empire building or hierarchical societies.
Sure TED's probably a conference for wankers but maybe Diamond has good stuff to say (I'll let you know after I watch his schpeel). Further, who but the bourgeoisie says that things are bourgeoisie anymore? Don't clamp that valve, symbol, go and lift your next lunch, paint a message on a wall, or watch as a window shatters before you. Take it from someone who's been around for awhile because I bet the pressure's been building since before TED and nothing will release it in a more satisfying way than to start following the desires in your head.
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http://www.blackandred.org/pages/catalog.html
Against His-story is an interpretation of history and the possible rise and spread of the first civilization. It's a fairly quick read and the analysis in the last hundred pages is stellar, especially coming from 1983. While this text likely did influence primitivism, I would say this is not a primitivist text but one that is simply critical of leviathan/empire building or hierarchical societies.
Sure TED's probably a conference for wankers but maybe Diamond has good stuff to say (I'll let you know after I watch his schpeel). Further, who but the bourgeoisie says that things are bourgeoisie anymore? Don't clamp that valve, symbol, go and lift your next lunch, paint a message on a wall, or watch as a window shatters before you. Take it from someone who's been around for awhile because I bet the pressure's been building since before TED and nothing will release it in a more satisfying way than to start following the desires in your head.
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Mar 24 2009, 07:22 CET
I appreciate your sentiments.
I would like to note though, in the interest of clarity, that posting a TED lecture is a lot like someone posting a "centrist" Economist article. An article which the uninformed might stumble onto and take seriously.
I label the enemy propaganda so that there is no confusion. I am confident that after you view this nonsense, you will agree.
I would like to note though, in the interest of clarity, that posting a TED lecture is a lot like someone posting a "centrist" Economist article. An article which the uninformed might stumble onto and take seriously.
I label the enemy propaganda so that there is no confusion. I am confident that after you view this nonsense, you will agree.
Mar 24 2009, 18:12 CET
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