New World Order - Documentary 2009 about NWO activists
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New World Order is a 2009 American documentary film directed by Luke Meyer and Andrew Neel. It explores activists who are committed to vigorously opposing what they perceive to be an emerging "New World Order".
The film concentrates on the activities of Alex Jones, Jim Tucker, Jack McLamb, Luke Rudowski, and Timuçin Leflef, with particular focus on their efforts to expose the highly secretive meetings of the Bilderberg Group, promotion of the 9/11 Truth Movement, and opposition to the erosion of traditional American, Constitutionally-based civil and political rights and liberties.
In an interview with Oxford Film Freak, Luke Meyer said he and partner Andrew Neel decided to make the documentary because, "I have always been interested in people who refuse to accept the standard belief systems, who do what they want or what they feel they have to regardless of what other people think." Neel added, "I thought conspiracy theorists were interesting because they see the world in a very different way... I wanted to know what it was like to be one of them."
The film premiered at South by Southwest on March 13, 2009, and Independent Film Channel
Jun 11, 2009, 16:56:59
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awesome, a bunch of quasi-fascists who don't go outside. just what i wanted to see.
Jun 11 2009, 20:31 UTC
Anything that legitimizes Alex Jones is trash. The guy's just a nut, plain and simple. Anyone saying the things he says on the street would be locked up for mental problems. But because Jones has his own show, he's "provocative" and "intense," not just mentally unhinged and paranoid.
Jun 11 2009, 21:41 UTC
I think this documentary is interesting in the sense that it shows how conspiracy theory nuts like Alex Jones think. I was interested in this partly because the New World Order discourse is often used in extreme right-wing rhetoric. I am in no way attempting to legitimize people like them.
Jun 11 2009, 22:31 UTC
Agreed with ArnoldPlaton. I was introduced the Alex Jones stuff a few years ago. He's definitely a demagogue and has a crew of Southern white supremacists and anti semites as followers. Sometimes this is subtle but it's there. Any doubts, check out the Republic Broadcasting Network and other proto-Fascist bastions of free speech.
It's important to know what's out there and be aware of it.
Too often legitimate concerns like 911 Truth are conflated with all this other stuff. It has hurt the search for truth.
Jun 11 2009, 23:39 UTC
Yep, it is also good to read things you don't support.
Funniest of all is the white american fear of new world order. Ain't it someone elso that should be scared or wouldn't it be USA's power that everyone should be cautious?
Anyway imagination is important.
Jun 12 2009, 17:41 UTC
Jun 12 2009, 20:36 UTC
The "white American fear" above is well-taken and well-said.
The subliminal message for the poor in America is that race equals class.
There is a famous anecdote about Martin Luther King in which King asks one of the white sheriff's deputies during a march why he wasn't marching with them. This was not meant to be entirely facetious.
Today the real debate over single payer health care in US should be not about choice but about any access at all and as a cause for civil rights-- those rights shared by people in most if not all Western democracies. In this and in other topics poor white people are controlled through the "race equals class" message.
Jun 12 2009, 21:24 UTC
so, you guys don't believe there's ANY substance to anything that Alex Jones presents?
Jun 14 2009, 21:16 UTC
I personaly don't
Jun 14 2009, 22:20 UTC
second that. I think I watched an Alex Jones video for the first time a while back (2004) and I believed it for about a month (heavy drinker/pot smoker at the time). Then as I thought about it, too many of his claims seemed unverifiable, extravagant and many of his "spontaneous scenes" chosen for his movie seemed staged, setup in a deceiving way or cherry picked. That and some of the shit I saw on the info-wars website (when I chose too look into him) really changed my opinions of him quick.
Jun 14 2009, 22:53 UTC
Jones was early on a skeptic about the 911 issue. His early films put the info together that was elaborated on in documentaries like Loose Change.
What Jones crowd doesn't do is separate out the pepper from the fly specks. That is my answer to the question above: it's not all BS but what information is there is folded into the NWO/Illuminati/aliens in the outhouse sort of things that only short wave radio listeners can find or even want to.
Jun 15 2009, 01:51 UTC
who cares about 9/11 truth anyway? does it really matter which religious authoritarians pulled that shit? is the point to get people to "question the status quo, man"? well 9/11 truthers have done enough shouting, and their voices must be quite hoarse by now.
no one will ever know what happened and that's just the way that kind of shit goes. talk about it in a sci-fi novel, and i'm all ears. eat some acid and try to be serious; i'll giggle with you. but straight faced huffing and puffing turns me off. none of it's gonna alter social relations or help break the momentum of the logic of capital or anything awesome like that, anyway.
Jun 15 2009, 04:04 UTC
I believe there's evidence for and historical precedence floating around in the nether that is all of recorded history, to support the idea that monied elitists have a Machiavellian agenda, that is implemented by think-tanks and organizations like the Bilderbergs or the Council on Foreign Relations.
9.11 is important in as much as it shows quite clearly that the US government has no interest in being transparent and allowing the constituents the information needed to allow them to play their role in this republic. but, 9.11 is only additional proof of that, not new proof. US history is riddled with cases where the evidence has been hidden, even destroyed, when they might not reflect prettily on the US.
personally, I take the position of one of my favorite authors:
Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.
~Robert Anton Wilson
Jun 16 2009, 03:29 UTC
I still think Jones and the rest of the nWo mythologisers were set up by Vince McMahon to facilitate the merger of World Championship Wrestling with the World Wrestling Federation, and why they never had Goldberg change his name to Rothschild will forever amaze me.
Jun 26 2009, 19:09 UTC
Mark Twain said, "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Alex Jones has his facts straight, but it's his "Christian-theology" spin you Chomskites don't like. I suggest your read this, and get a few more facts:
33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True
Jan 07 2010, 09:27 UTC